When is it okay to spend money and how the heck do you draw the line between frugal living and being a cheap miser?

This is something I am struggling with a lot lately. It started with my plan to purchase a new MacBook this month and continued with my October spending review.

I think I’m doing really well at saving money and cutting my spending, but I got some great comments on those aforementioned posts that made me start to wonder and I read this post about frugal living at Paid Twice and started to feel bad about the amount of money I spend on things I don’t need.

So when is it okay to spend some money? Should I have the attitude that I’m in debt and my money should only go to necessities until the debt is paid off? Is it okay to buy something if I budget for it and I have the cash to pay for it and it doesn’t harm my budget in any other way? It’s not like I’m looking for permission to make a purchase because obviously I am working hard at managing my money and this is something I have to figure out for myself. I’m really just looking for ideas on how to approach this issue. Please share your approach to the NEEDS vs WANTS battle and when you think it’s okay to loosen up and spend some money (if ever).

I have identified a few problem areas or areas of opportunity in our monthly budget. These categories are the most variable and the most controllable out of everything (controllable as in they are not fixed expenses like utilities). For us, these categories are Groceries, Eating Out, Entertainment, and Household. Groceries is exactly that, only groceries. Eating Out is any restaurant, vending machine, or any other way to spend money on food that isn’t at the grocery store. Entertainment includes any sort of fun or recreation expense, such as video games, music, or going to an NFL game. Household is a broad category and includes anything we need around the house, such as paper towels, cat food, soap, etc… you get the idea.

The reason I chose to focus on these categories is that they are not strictly needs, but mostly wants and therefore not necessary to live on. Household and Groceries are part needs, part wants, while Eating Out and Entertainment are purely wants. I have found some large variation in these categories now that we are watching our spending closely and that leads me to believe there is room for savings.

Groceries- we spent $628 in August, $195 in September, and $460 in October. That is an average of $428 per month, but that still sounds like a lot for two people. The fact that we were under $200 once makes me think we can save a lot of money here and I have budgeted $300 for November as a place to start.

Eating Out- we spent $191 in August, $114 in September, and $230 in October. That is an average of $178 per month. Again, the fact that we ’survived’ September while only spending $114 on eating out makes me think we really don’t need to spend the $230 we did on October. I have budgeted $150 for November, which should be a nice medium.

Household-  more of the same pattern, $387 in August, $203 in September, and $279 in October. That is an average of $290 per month. All of those totals look high to me, but since the best we have done is $203, I am budgeting $225 in November and hoping we can come in below that.

Entertainment- would be more consistent, except for the unusual expense of going to a football game in September: $69 in August, $241 in September, and $40 in October. That is an average of $117 per month. I am going to budget $120 for November because I have a planned entertainment expense.

If I stick to my November budget of $795 for these four categories, I will save $218 over our previous average spending and I will save as much as $691 if you take the high spending month from each category. That is serious savings! On the other hand, if we take the low spending total for each month ($552), I may actually be spending $243 too much. That is a lot of spending!

My conclusion is that this is a difficult part of the budget to handle. These categories all come down to needs versus wants and how much money do we want to spend today to satisfy those needs and wants versus what we are giving up in the future to do so. I haven’t found the ideal solution yet, but I think that taking the time to review and looking for ways to cut spending is what it takes for success and on top of that it probably just takes some time and practice.

Yes, that is right. I’m roughly $262K in debt and I’m buying a brand new laptop. Am I stupid or what?

We can make a pretty good case for why we need the new MacBook, but who really NEEDS a MacBook. We are making the choice to buy one in order to make life a little easier on my wife give her more productivity at work. We also want to play with iMovie!

We will be replacing an old desktop computer with the MacBook and selling an old iBook to help chip away at the price a little bit. Not only that, but I have the cash to pay for it, above and beyond our normal expenses and debt payments for the month, and I am saving $100 by getting the eduction price because I work at a University. We are also waiting for the rumored announcement of an updated MacBook before we pull the trigger on a purchase.

So how do you decide if you can afford something? I can pay cash for it. Yet I am also deeply in debt so the money should really be going toward debt payments. However, if I follow that logic to it’s end I really shouldn’t be buying anything. I should cut the cable TV, eat only Ramen noodles, and work by candlelight in my living room. Okay, that is a bit extreme, but my point is that I have chosen to spend money on certain things, even while I’m faced with this mountain of debt. I am choosing to extend the amount of time it takes me to become debt free, yet I am doing so to maintain a comfortable lifestyle. I have made a lot of lifestyle cuts already (believe it or not) and I keep trying to cut more each month, but I can only go so far. It’s not that I deserve these luxuries, but I can pay for them so I guess that is my choice. Spending $1,200 on the MacBook may not be the wisest move at this point in my life, but all it really means is about one more month to get all of my credit card debt paid off (my primary financial goal right now), so I can live with that for now.

What do you think? Is this stupid, acceptable, or something in between?

Recently, I posted about my poor budgeting and spending at work. Now I would like to share some tips on how to reduce spending on food at work and what I have done to save about $100 a month compared to my old ways.

Skip Starbucks and drink coffee at work- a lot of offices have coffee available for free. If so, that is obviously a great chance to save some money. I don’t have that option at my office so I bought a Senseo coffee machine and brew my own coffee at my desk. The Senseo machine is about $60, but you could pay for that by skipping lattes for a month. Admittedly, you could get a less expensive coffee maker, but the Senseo does not require filters and is easy to clean up. I think it payed for itself very quickly for me. The Senseo doesn’t brew the greatest coffee, but it’s not bad and for less than $0.50 per cup it gets the job done. Whatever your substitute, the goal is to cut out the $4 lattes.

Brown bag it- again, an obvious solution, but if you haven’t tried it you will truly be amazed at how much money you can save by doing this. My favorite ‘brown bag’ lunch is leftovers from dinner, preferably pasta or something easy to heat up in the microwave at work. Another easy option is sandwiches, which can even be made the night before to save time in the morning. I also keep an emergency stash of Hot Pockets (Lean Pockets) for days that I don’t feel like preparing anything or days that I forget to bring food (I keep some in the freezer at work). A lot of these options depend on having a refrigerator at work, so hopefully that is possible for you. If not, your variety may be limited a bit, but perhaps an insulated travel bag with an ice pack would get the job done. Even if you have to go out and buy something, it will quickly pay for itself.

Keep snacks and favorite drinks at the office- I’m trying to cut snacks and sodas out of my diet as much as possible, but if I am going to indulge, I don’t want to pay the prices at the vending machine. Your money goes so much farther on these items at the grocery store, so stock up on the things you like, but don’t let yourself go crazy with it. For example, I try to allow myself either one cup of coffee or one diet soda per day at work. Sometimes I’ll skip one or the other for the whole week. My desire is to avoid becoming dependent on these drinks and form a habit that could get pricey. Some of my coworkers will go through four or more sodas per day, and buy them at vending machines- paying a huge premium over the grocery store. The other part of this tip is to replace the foods you like with low calorie options- I try to go for some Baked Lays or the new Nabisco 100 Calorie snacks. I’m not going for perfection here, just trying to make the best choices I can while I’m away from home.

Drink water- most offices have a water cooler, which makes this so easy (and free). I don’t have that option at work- only a drinking fountain. I’m not thrilled with drinking tap water, and even less thrilled with the germs that may be floating around it, but I just bring a bottle of water to work each day and refill it. I’m really tempted to bring in a gallon of purified water each day, if for nothing else than to avoid the germs around the fountain, but I haven’t bothered yet and I’ve survived on the tap water so far.

Tell your coworkers you’ll never eat with them again! Okay, that’s a joke, but you definitely can’t make it a habit to eat out every day if you want to save money on your lunches. If saving money isn’t important to you or the camaraderie is worth more, then by all means go for it. I work with programmers, who tend to be a quiet bunch, so we are fine with going out to lunch together every couple of weeks or so. That works for us and makes it easy on the budget. If going out to lunch can somehow better your career or help you get ahead (maybe going to lunch with the boss) then I would consider it money well spent, you’ll just have to look for other areas to cut back.

A typical month in the past would have seen me spend about $80 - $100 eating out at work (that’s after I had kicked the latte habit). There is nothing inherently wrong with spending some money on lunch. However, for myself I found that I was often just picking up something convenient and fast and eating it at my desk in a hurry. There just wasn’t a good reason to spend $5 - $10 to do that when I could bring food from home about a fourth of the cost and get the same result. If your office goes out to lunch and you want to be part of the culture then make that part of your budget and have fun. At the very least, I think everyone can benefit by spending less on coffee and skipping the vending machines. I practice all of these tips and it has made a big difference in my budget. Good luck!

When I totaled my weekly budget summary on Sunday I noticed that I had spent about $22 eating out at work over the past week. I only had one ‘real’ meal that week when I went to lunch with some coworkers, but that was only about $7 anyway. I dug into the numbers and realized that a bagel here, some coffee there, and a few snacks had all added up quite quickly.

$22 is probably a lot less money than I would have spent in a typical week eating at work just a few months ago (actually probably less than I would have spent on coffee alone in one week), but now that I’m committed to my budget, and paying every extra dollar I can find toward debt, the total really jumps out at me. I need to focus this week and keep the cash in my wallet. So far I’m two for two on days not spending any money while at work. This post will hopefully keep me accountable for the next three days.